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| Presidential debate: polls widen between Trump and Clinton – live | Presidential debate: polls widen between Trump and Clinton – live |
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| Confirmed: Wayne Newton is coming. | |
| Our #debate2016 guests tonight include Marcus Luttrell, Pat Smith, and the legendary Wayne Newton. | |
| Speaking of legendary Las Vegas acts... did anyone think to invite Britney? | |
| Doesn’t matter. She’s busy in another part of town: | |
| Tonight. #PieceOfMe is back. I. Can’t. Wait!!! Missed you, Vegas! pic.twitter.com/MQo0bDghX2 | |
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| Hope amidst ugliness: the outcry from men | |
| Jessica Valenti | |
| Every day it becomes clearer that Hillary Clinton is going to make history and win the presidential election. It’s hard to feel excited or even relieved, though, when her road to victory is so slick with the odium of Donald Trump. | |
| Between the video of Trump bragging about sexual assault and woman after woman coming forward to claim he did just that, it’s hard to stave off that sick-to-your-stomach feeling Michelle Obama described so powerfully last week. For those of us who have endured a lifetime of unwanted leers and touches, this last leg of the campaign has been painful. And as Trump surrogates and supporters –even his wife – continue to shrug off the offenses as “locker room talk” or outright lies, we’re reminded of just how easily women are disbelieved. | |
| There is one thing, though, that’s giving me hope in the midst of this ugliness: the outcry from men who refuse to characterize sexual harassment and abuse as normal male behavior. Too often, discussions about sexual assault center only on women – our victimization and perceived culpability. Since the tape’s release, though, the national conversation has shifted: men are coming forward en masse to reject the idea that “real men” talk about abusing women – that this is normal language to use in a locker room or anywhere else. | |
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| About 126.9m votes were cast in the 2012 presidential election. It’s started: | |
| As this evening's debate approaches: at least 2.3 million people have already voted | |
| This guy! https://t.co/kN6T2eNz11 | |
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| Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway is proud to be joined at the debate by Malik Obama, the president’s half-brother: | Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway is proud to be joined at the debate by Malik Obama, the president’s half-brother: |
| Malik Obama and I hanging post-debate prep today. He told me why he is a Republican and voting for @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/sAGXDj4GHg | Malik Obama and I hanging post-debate prep today. He told me why he is a Republican and voting for @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/sAGXDj4GHg |
| Washington Post editor and Obama biographer David Maraniss has more on Malik Obama: | Washington Post editor and Obama biographer David Maraniss has more on Malik Obama: |
| As Obama biographer, I dealt with many Kenyan relatives. Now Trumpster Malik by far the least reliable, consumed with pub & money. | As Obama biographer, I dealt with many Kenyan relatives. Now Trumpster Malik by far the least reliable, consumed with pub & money. |
| 3) He has gone by 32 names during his life. Roy, Bobby, and finally Malik. | 3) He has gone by 32 names during his life. Roy, Bobby, and finally Malik. |
| 8) By the time Barack Obama reached global fame, Malik wanted to be his Kenyan spokesman, setting up shop in Kisumu and Kogelo. | 8) By the time Barack Obama reached global fame, Malik wanted to be his Kenyan spokesman, setting up shop in Kisumu and Kogelo. |
| 9) At one point, and I’m sure Trump would love thi about his newfound friend, Malik tried to build a mosque on the Obama compound in Kogelo. | 9) At one point, and I’m sure Trump would love thi about his newfound friend, Malik tried to build a mosque on the Obama compound in Kogelo. |
| 10) By the time I reached Kenya to research biography, Malik wanted to control all interviews and get paid for them. | 10) By the time I reached Kenya to research biography, Malik wanted to control all interviews and get paid for them. |
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| A new Pew research survey finds that “more than seven in ten (72%) white evangelical Protestants say an elected official can behave ethically even if they have committed transgressions in their personal life—a 42-point jump from 2011, when only 30 % of white evangelical Protestants said the same.” | A new Pew research survey finds that “more than seven in ten (72%) white evangelical Protestants say an elected official can behave ethically even if they have committed transgressions in their personal life—a 42-point jump from 2011, when only 30 % of white evangelical Protestants said the same.” |
| What changed? And does this even count as a voting bloc anymore, if the whole “family values” thing has been jettisoned? | What changed? And does this even count as a voting bloc anymore, if the whole “family values” thing has been jettisoned? |
| White evangelicals have jumped 42 pts (!) in accepting politicians' immoral personal acts: 30% (2011) to 72% (2016) https://t.co/VHqP8r5BU0 pic.twitter.com/ohhWsXt5b0 | White evangelicals have jumped 42 pts (!) in accepting politicians' immoral personal acts: 30% (2011) to 72% (2016) https://t.co/VHqP8r5BU0 pic.twitter.com/ohhWsXt5b0 |
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| The Cleveland Indians (that’s baseball) have just won the pennant and are headed to the World Series. The governor noticed: | The Cleveland Indians (that’s baseball) have just won the pennant and are headed to the World Series. The governor noticed: |
| Amazing! Four wins away from a second Cleveland championship in 2016. All of Ohio, let's #RallyTogether for the World Series. @Indians pic.twitter.com/Z9uUGaanQd | Amazing! Four wins away from a second Cleveland championship in 2016. All of Ohio, let's #RallyTogether for the World Series. @Indians pic.twitter.com/Z9uUGaanQd |
| You’ll recall that the Cleveland Cavaliers (basketball) are the current NBA champions, and when they won the city did this: | You’ll recall that the Cleveland Cavaliers (basketball) are the current NBA champions, and when they won the city did this: |
| Other awesome things to have occurred this year in Cleveland: | Other awesome things to have occurred this year in Cleveland: |
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| We know what you’re all thinking. Where’s the vacuuming picture? When are we going to post the pre-debate vacuuming picture? | We know what you’re all thinking. Where’s the vacuuming picture? When are we going to post the pre-debate vacuuming picture? |
| Additional photojournalism from the scene: | Additional photojournalism from the scene: |
| Fun fact – Trump is entirely out of the casino business, and he has never owned a Las Vegas casino, although he’s in talks to build one, the Wall Street Journal reported in February: | Fun fact – Trump is entirely out of the casino business, and he has never owned a Las Vegas casino, although he’s in talks to build one, the Wall Street Journal reported in February: |
| Mr. Trump owned casinos in Atlantic City for decades but never had any gambling interests in Nevada. The casinos he developed and owned in Atlantic City went through bankruptcy four times. He no longer has any interest them. | Mr. Trump owned casinos in Atlantic City for decades but never had any gambling interests in Nevada. The casinos he developed and owned in Atlantic City went through bankruptcy four times. He no longer has any interest them. |
| The Trump hotel in Las Vegas is near the northern end of the Las Vegas Strip. It is across from the Wynn Las Vegas, but the rest of the surrounding area is largely underdeveloped because several large-scale projects stopped when they were only partially built during the recession. Now with the casino market in Las Vegas improving, some of the projects have new owners and may be moving forward. Gambling revenue on the Las Vegas Strip was flat last year, but revenue from hotel room rates improved. | The Trump hotel in Las Vegas is near the northern end of the Las Vegas Strip. It is across from the Wynn Las Vegas, but the rest of the surrounding area is largely underdeveloped because several large-scale projects stopped when they were only partially built during the recession. Now with the casino market in Las Vegas improving, some of the projects have new owners and may be moving forward. Gambling revenue on the Las Vegas Strip was flat last year, but revenue from hotel room rates improved. |
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| She’s with her. | She’s with her. |
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| Palin to attend debate - report | Palin to attend debate - report |
| Former vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, also a former governor of Alaska and former Fox News contractor, will attend tonight’s debate as a guest of Donald Trump, CNN reports. | Former vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, also a former governor of Alaska and former Fox News contractor, will attend tonight’s debate as a guest of Donald Trump, CNN reports. |
| Is this a great opportunity to revisit Palin’s historic on-camera endorsement of Trump in January? Can I get a hallelujah? | Is this a great opportunity to revisit Palin’s historic on-camera endorsement of Trump in January? Can I get a hallelujah? |
| Trump also has invited Malik Obama, an estranged half-brother of the president with possible Hamas ties; Pat Smith, the mother of a state department IT technician killed in the 2012 attacks in Benghazi; Leslie Millwee, a former TV reporter from Arkansas who has accused former president Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her; and somebody even at some point said Wayne Newton was coming? | Trump also has invited Malik Obama, an estranged half-brother of the president with possible Hamas ties; Pat Smith, the mother of a state department IT technician killed in the 2012 attacks in Benghazi; Leslie Millwee, a former TV reporter from Arkansas who has accused former president Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her; and somebody even at some point said Wayne Newton was coming? |
| 1) Some basic facts about Malik Obama, who will be at the presidential debate as guest of Donald Trump in Las Vegas tonight. | 1) Some basic facts about Malik Obama, who will be at the presidential debate as guest of Donald Trump in Las Vegas tonight. |
| Hillary Clinton’s guests are by comparison topical and boring. She has invited Meg Whitman, Hewlett-Packard CEO and erstwhile Republican; Astrid Silva, the immigration activist; Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kareem Abdul Jabbar; and Mark Cuban, billionaire owner of Dallas Mavericks-slash-bee in Trump’s bonnet. Oh and Le-yawn Panetta. | Hillary Clinton’s guests are by comparison topical and boring. She has invited Meg Whitman, Hewlett-Packard CEO and erstwhile Republican; Astrid Silva, the immigration activist; Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kareem Abdul Jabbar; and Mark Cuban, billionaire owner of Dallas Mavericks-slash-bee in Trump’s bonnet. Oh and Le-yawn Panetta. |
| Cant wait to give a big hug to my bestie @realDonaldTrump at the debate tomorrow night. I know you miss me ! | Cant wait to give a big hug to my bestie @realDonaldTrump at the debate tomorrow night. I know you miss me ! |
| Also all these people, attending with Clinton: | Also all these people, attending with Clinton: |
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| Reminder: As ugly as things get onstage tonight, tomorrow night these people have to eat next to one another. | Reminder: As ugly as things get onstage tonight, tomorrow night these people have to eat next to one another. |
| Trump and Clinton have both said they’ll attend the annual Al Smith dinner Thursday night, “the white-tie Manhattan ritual that drops like an Alka Seltzer every four years, as the race for the White House enters a stage of maximum partisan discomfort,” we said in 2012. | Trump and Clinton have both said they’ll attend the annual Al Smith dinner Thursday night, “the white-tie Manhattan ritual that drops like an Alka Seltzer every four years, as the race for the White House enters a stage of maximum partisan discomfort,” we said in 2012. |
| The candidates don formal attire and sit with the archbishop between them, and each must rise and deliver a comedic monologue. Awkward! | The candidates don formal attire and sit with the archbishop between them, and each must rise and deliver a comedic monologue. Awkward! |
| Hosted by the archbishop of New York, the dinner promotes itself as a light-hearted break from the campaign trail. In fact it’s a duty to which presidential nominees have docilely submitted since 1960, except when the whiff of controversy, usually over abortion, has made it politically inconvenient for the Catholic Church to invite them. | Hosted by the archbishop of New York, the dinner promotes itself as a light-hearted break from the campaign trail. In fact it’s a duty to which presidential nominees have docilely submitted since 1960, except when the whiff of controversy, usually over abortion, has made it politically inconvenient for the Catholic Church to invite them. |
| Here are 2012 highlights: | Here are 2012 highlights: |
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| Can Trump win without New Hampshire? | Can Trump win without New Hampshire? |
| A new University of New Hampshire poll has Trump down 15 (fifteen) points in the state, where he notched a 20-point victory in February in a solid six-way primary contest. The National Journal’s Josh Kraushaar notes that the poll squares with reports earlier this week that internal Republican polling had Trump down 14 points in the state. | A new University of New Hampshire poll has Trump down 15 (fifteen) points in the state, where he notched a 20-point victory in February in a solid six-way primary contest. The National Journal’s Josh Kraushaar notes that the poll squares with reports earlier this week that internal Republican polling had Trump down 14 points in the state. |
| New Hampshire poll(UNH)Clinton 48Trump 33Johnson 7Stein 2other 4Don't know 5#nhpolitics | New Hampshire poll(UNH)Clinton 48Trump 33Johnson 7Stein 2other 4Don't know 5#nhpolitics |
| Does Trump even have a path to victory any longer? “No,” thinks Stuart Rothenberg, author of the eponymous politics report. | Does Trump even have a path to victory any longer? “No,” thinks Stuart Rothenberg, author of the eponymous politics report. |
| Let’s take a quick look at why. Here’s a picture of what was thought to be Trump’s path of least resistance to the presidency, involving a scenario that gets him right to 270, barely, with victory in Maine’s second district and in four or five states where Clinton currently holds solid polling leads. | Let’s take a quick look at why. Here’s a picture of what was thought to be Trump’s path of least resistance to the presidency, involving a scenario that gets him right to 270, barely, with victory in Maine’s second district and in four or five states where Clinton currently holds solid polling leads. |
| Take New Hampshire out of this picture, and how does Trump win? A new Monmouth poll today had Clinton up seven points in Wisconsin. Trump claims to be in the lead in Colorado, where polling averages have him down five. Etc, etc. | Take New Hampshire out of this picture, and how does Trump win? A new Monmouth poll today had Clinton up seven points in Wisconsin. Trump claims to be in the lead in Colorado, where polling averages have him down five. Etc, etc. |
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| Mike Pence is “wheels down in Las Vegas!” and steps off the plane looking very vice presidential. That’s his wife, Karen, beside him. | Mike Pence is “wheels down in Las Vegas!” and steps off the plane looking very vice presidential. That’s his wife, Karen, beside him. |
| We're wheels down in Las Vegas! Ready to cheer on @realDonaldTrump tonight as he takes the stage to fight for you, America. pic.twitter.com/W6do1fprSV | We're wheels down in Las Vegas! Ready to cheer on @realDonaldTrump tonight as he takes the stage to fight for you, America. pic.twitter.com/W6do1fprSV |
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| The band Le Tigre has reassembled and released a track called “I’m with her” in support of Hillary Clinton: | The band Le Tigre has reassembled and released a track called “I’m with her” in support of Hillary Clinton: |
| For the sake of balance here also is a Donald Trump song discovered quickly and at random on YouTube: | For the sake of balance here also is a Donald Trump song discovered quickly and at random on YouTube: |