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Presidential debate: Trump and Clinton go head-to-head for the final time – live | |
(35 minutes later) | |
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Here comes Chris Wallace, the moderator. He wishes everyone a good evening. And says “be quiet.” | |
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What can it mean | |
I will be handing over my Twitter account to my team of deplorables for tonight's #debate#MakeAmericaGreatAgain | |
Got her back? #DebateNight pic.twitter.com/GpNCJMEOGM | |
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Here is a live video stream of the debate hall: | |
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Welcome to debate night | |
If you’re just joining us – welcome to our live-wire coverage of the third and final presidential debate in the 2016 presidential contest. We’re almost home now. | |
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will face off starting at 9pm ET in Las Vegas. The debate will last 90 minutes, with Fox News’ Chris Wallace moderating. | |
If you’ve come this far, really, you know pretty much what to expect. There’ll be a first question, then an attack, and a counter-attack, and suddenly we’ll be nipples-deep in a swamp of misdirection, denial, insult and despair. Thank you for joining us. | |
The commission on presidential debates has announced six topic areas for this evening. (Somebody please remind us at night’s end of how many of these we actually get through.) The designated topics are: debt and entitlements, immigration, economy, the supreme court, foreign hotspots and fitness to be president. | |
Not on the list, once again: climate change. | |
We’ll have a video live stream atop the blog once the action starts. | |
Our Guardian reporting team tonight includes Paul Lewis, Sabrina Siddiqui and Ben Jacobs in Las Vegas; Alan Yuhas contributing his instant fact-check; Dan Roberts providing analysis; Mona Chalabi nailing down data; Nicky Woolf chasing breaking news; Adam Gabbatt chilling with Trump supporters; and Nicole Puglise checking in from a pop-up debate party the Guardian US is doing with lovely partners WNYC and Tumblr. | |
No TV, no problem: How to watch tonight's final presidential #debate (By @hwise) https://t.co/bVFFZTeycT | |
Read further debate preview coverage: | |
Woman on Vegas street: "Why all the police?"Cop: "For the debate tonight."Woman: "Debate? What debate?" | |
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. | |
Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.” | |
– Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1971) | |
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We wanted to repost this logistical information in case it’s useful. We’ll have a live video stream here shortly before the event begins. | |
What: Third presidential debate | |
When: Starts at 9pm ET and runs 90 minutes with no commercials | |
Who: The nominees plus Fox News anchor Chris Wallace | |
Where: Thomas & Mack Center at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas | |
Why: ... | |
Format: The debate will consist of six 15-minute segments, approximately 15 minutes long. Wallace will open each segment with a question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. | |
Clinton’s Twitter tweaked Trump today for mispronouncing the host state: | |
Spoiler alert: He was actually wrong. #Debate pic.twitter.com/EVaiJio993 | |
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Mona Chalabi | |
If the last three presidential elections are anything to go by (and so far, they haven’t been), tonight’s debate is unlikely to have a huge impact on polling figures. After the DNC, Hillary Clinton got a significant boost in polling averages, as is often the case after the party conventions. Debates, on the other hand, especially final debates, tend to have a smaller impact on public opinion unless there is a very clear winner. That’s partly just a matter of timing - with just 20 days to go until the election, most people have made up their minds and so polls tend to fluctuate less. | |
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Here’s activist Tom Moran, inside Trump at a rally at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas earlier today: | |
Here’s new work by the New York-based artist Hope Gangloff: | |
And a worker paints a mask of Donald Trump at the Shenzhen Lanbingcai Latex Crafts Factory in Shenzhen, China (picture from Tuesday): | |
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Tough luck for whoever’s behind him: | Tough luck for whoever’s behind him: |
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar gets a front row seat for #Debatenight at @UNLV pic.twitter.com/mOGyYsLCES | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar gets a front row seat for #Debatenight at @UNLV pic.twitter.com/mOGyYsLCES |
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Stick around for our post-debate panel | Stick around for our post-debate panel |
Assuming we all make it through all 90 minutes of this, we have an invitation we’d like to extend. | Assuming we all make it through all 90 minutes of this, we have an invitation we’d like to extend. |
We’ve joined forces with WNYC and Tumblr to throw a Pop-Up Debate Party at Tumblr’s headquarters where, after the debate, we’ll be hosting a post-debate flash panel featuring: | We’ve joined forces with WNYC and Tumblr to throw a Pop-Up Debate Party at Tumblr’s headquarters where, after the debate, we’ll be hosting a post-debate flash panel featuring: |
Moderator: Nicholas Thompson, editor of NewYorker.com | Moderator: Nicholas Thompson, editor of NewYorker.com |
Kai Wright, host of WNYC & the Nation’s United States of Anxiety Podcast | |
Jessica Valenti, columnist at the Guardian | |
Tanzina Vega, national reporter at CNN | |
Spencer Ackerman, national security editor at The Guardian | |
We’ll have a live video stream of the panel right here in the blog, so stick around! if you feel like. The Guardian’s Nicole Puglise sends this from the scene: | We’ll have a live video stream of the panel right here in the blog, so stick around! if you feel like. The Guardian’s Nicole Puglise sends this from the scene: |
Loving these buttons at this @GuardianUS / @WNYC / @tumblr debate party like the true millennial that I am pic.twitter.com/wq5qcq1GoJ | Loving these buttons at this @GuardianUS / @WNYC / @tumblr debate party like the true millennial that I am pic.twitter.com/wq5qcq1GoJ |
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Trump’s running mate makes the supreme court argument – whatever you think of Trump, the argument to wavering Republicans goes, you certainly cannot accept the prospect of Hillary Clinton nominating supreme court justices. | Trump’s running mate makes the supreme court argument – whatever you think of Trump, the argument to wavering Republicans goes, you certainly cannot accept the prospect of Hillary Clinton nominating supreme court justices. |
Pence on CNN: "The Supreme Court is literally on the ballot" | Pence on CNN: "The Supreme Court is literally on the ballot" |
Happily for wavering voters everywhere, and ultimately for the republic, Arizona senator John McCain promised this week that Republicans would block any Clinton nominee anyway: | Happily for wavering voters everywhere, and ultimately for the republic, Arizona senator John McCain promised this week that Republicans would block any Clinton nominee anyway: |
I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up,” he declared. | I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up,” he declared. |
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What will they debate about? | What will they debate about? |
There are many forms of political punditry that seem always to miss the mark. Post-debate analysis comes to mind. Also, pre-debate analysis. Every description in advance of what we expect to happen onstage – the candidate chemistry, the tone, the issues they must surely discuss – those predictions seem unfailingly to miss. | There are many forms of political punditry that seem always to miss the mark. Post-debate analysis comes to mind. Also, pre-debate analysis. Every description in advance of what we expect to happen onstage – the candidate chemistry, the tone, the issues they must surely discuss – those predictions seem unfailingly to miss. |
So let’s give it another whirl. What will they discuss tonight? Moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News will have questions cued to the six topic areas announced in advance: debt and entitlements, immigration, economy, the supreme court, foreign hotspots and fitness to be president. | So let’s give it another whirl. What will they discuss tonight? Moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News will have questions cued to the six topic areas announced in advance: debt and entitlements, immigration, economy, the supreme court, foreign hotspots and fitness to be president. |
But the candidates’ preferred messages in recent days, especially as Trump is concerned, touch on different themes. Trump has been talking a lot about a rigged election and promised to “drain the swamp” of Washington. In recent days he has proposed ethics reform laws and congressional term limits. Meanwhile, Breitbart, Trump’s phantom media arm, published today (for the first time, it seems) the story of a former Arkansas broadcaster, Leslie Milwee, who says Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her in 1980. She’s invited to the debate. | But the candidates’ preferred messages in recent days, especially as Trump is concerned, touch on different themes. Trump has been talking a lot about a rigged election and promised to “drain the swamp” of Washington. In recent days he has proposed ethics reform laws and congressional term limits. Meanwhile, Breitbart, Trump’s phantom media arm, published today (for the first time, it seems) the story of a former Arkansas broadcaster, Leslie Milwee, who says Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her in 1980. She’s invited to the debate. |
Trump says that Clinton emails released by Wikileaks show she is part of an international cabal, with banks and the media, to destroy the country and enrich and empower themselves. He has contended that the state department offered the FBI a quid pro quo for declassifying certain Clinton emails just as they were to come in for public scrutiny. Any of these would-be scandals might be expected to come up. | Trump says that Clinton emails released by Wikileaks show she is part of an international cabal, with banks and the media, to destroy the country and enrich and empower themselves. He has contended that the state department offered the FBI a quid pro quo for declassifying certain Clinton emails just as they were to come in for public scrutiny. Any of these would-be scandals might be expected to come up. |
Clinton, for her part, may want to discuss the attack by Trump on his Republican colleagues; Trump’s increasingly wild talk about voter fraud; or the astounding outpouring since the last debate of women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct or assault. (He denies all the claims.) Here is a video telling their stories: | Clinton, for her part, may want to discuss the attack by Trump on his Republican colleagues; Trump’s increasingly wild talk about voter fraud; or the astounding outpouring since the last debate of women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct or assault. (He denies all the claims.) Here is a video telling their stories: |
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Confirmed: Wayne Newton is coming. | Confirmed: Wayne Newton is coming. |
Our #debate2016 guests tonight include Marcus Luttrell, Pat Smith, and the legendary Wayne Newton. | Our #debate2016 guests tonight include Marcus Luttrell, Pat Smith, and the legendary Wayne Newton. |
Speaking of legendary Las Vegas acts... did anyone think to invite Britney? | Speaking of legendary Las Vegas acts... did anyone think to invite Britney? |
Doesn’t matter. She’s busy in another part of town: | Doesn’t matter. She’s busy in another part of town: |
Tonight. #PieceOfMe is back. I. Can’t. Wait!!! Missed you, Vegas! pic.twitter.com/MQo0bDghX2 | Tonight. #PieceOfMe is back. I. Can’t. Wait!!! Missed you, Vegas! pic.twitter.com/MQo0bDghX2 |
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Hope amidst ugliness: the outcry from men | Hope amidst ugliness: the outcry from men |
Jessica Valenti | Jessica Valenti |
Every day it becomes clearer that Hillary Clinton is going to make history and win the presidential election. It’s hard to feel excited or even relieved, though, when her road to victory is so slick with the odium of Donald Trump. | Every day it becomes clearer that Hillary Clinton is going to make history and win the presidential election. It’s hard to feel excited or even relieved, though, when her road to victory is so slick with the odium of Donald Trump. |
Between the video of Trump bragging about sexual assault and woman after woman coming forward to claim he did just that, it’s hard to stave off that sick-to-your-stomach feeling Michelle Obama described so powerfully last week. For those of us who have endured a lifetime of unwanted leers and touches, this last leg of the campaign has been painful. And as Trump surrogates and supporters –even his wife – continue to shrug off the offenses as “locker room talk” or outright lies, we’re reminded of just how easily women are disbelieved. | Between the video of Trump bragging about sexual assault and woman after woman coming forward to claim he did just that, it’s hard to stave off that sick-to-your-stomach feeling Michelle Obama described so powerfully last week. For those of us who have endured a lifetime of unwanted leers and touches, this last leg of the campaign has been painful. And as Trump surrogates and supporters –even his wife – continue to shrug off the offenses as “locker room talk” or outright lies, we’re reminded of just how easily women are disbelieved. |
There is one thing, though, that’s giving me hope in the midst of this ugliness: the outcry from men who refuse to characterize sexual harassment and abuse as normal male behavior. Too often, discussions about sexual assault center only on women – our victimization and perceived culpability. Since the tape’s release, though, the national conversation has shifted: men are coming forward en masse to reject the idea that “real men” talk about abusing women – that this is normal language to use in a locker room or anywhere else. | There is one thing, though, that’s giving me hope in the midst of this ugliness: the outcry from men who refuse to characterize sexual harassment and abuse as normal male behavior. Too often, discussions about sexual assault center only on women – our victimization and perceived culpability. Since the tape’s release, though, the national conversation has shifted: men are coming forward en masse to reject the idea that “real men” talk about abusing women – that this is normal language to use in a locker room or anywhere else. |
Read further: | Read further: |
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About 126.9m votes were cast in the 2012 presidential election. It’s started: | About 126.9m votes were cast in the 2012 presidential election. It’s started: |
As this evening's debate approaches: at least 2.3 million people have already voted | As this evening's debate approaches: at least 2.3 million people have already voted |
This guy! https://t.co/kN6T2eNz11 | This guy! https://t.co/kN6T2eNz11 |